How To Die Happy Podcast

Interview with Martin O’Toole and Julia Malcolmson

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SPEAKERS

Kartika Alexandra, Chris Siracuse, How To Die Happy, Jake Mackenzie, Carl Honoré, Julia Malcolmson, Martin O'Toole, Alexander Mendeluk

Martin O'Toole  00:07

Okay 321 I'm back in my room Hello Jules. 

Julia Malcolmson  00:24

Hi my love. 

Martin O'Toole  00:25

How we doing? 

Julia Malcolmson  00:27

Good good. 

Martin O'Toole  00:29

what's happening. 

Julia Malcolmson  00:30

Well it's Monday, but it's a pretty good Monday we had a nice day out yesterday we got a little bit Christmassy had some Christmas drinks doesn't Christmas shopping? Well you did little Christmas shopping I tried on clothes 

Martin O'Toole  00:43

you yeah you'll get lots of Christmas presents, but it was actually it was nice day out and I wasn't feeling at all festive but I've begun to feel festive. Was that the vegan gingerbread latte that did vegan gingerbread latte most certainly assisted the time for that vegan gingerbread latte vibe. Shout out to duck poo sada cheeky little place we found in Ubud if you haven't been there yet, go there. If you're not in Bali, probably don't go there. So this chinwag, this is your first ever chinwag. 

Julia Malcolmson  01:24

This is my first ever chinwag 

Martin O'Toole  01:26

welcome MBM. Binu. 

Julia Malcolmson  01:27

Thank you very much. 

Martin O'Toole  01:28

And this chinwag, I suppose is really all about celebration, isn't it? 

Julia Malcolmson  01:35

Yeah, it's a show about celebrating life. You know, what are you celebrating as this year comes towards an end. 

Martin O'Toole  01:41

And of course, this entire podcast show is about celebrating life, for those of you hadn't cottoned on to the theme just yet. Although from all the incredible interactions, and feedback and messages and reviews that we've had, over the last few months, it certainly does seem to be working out in terms of people comprehending the theme.

Julia Malcolmson  02:09

Remember, it's important to celebrate everything that we do, even the little things, and we so often forget, we need to kind of pick ourselves up a little bit. 

Martin O'Toole  02:18

Yeah. Are you talking about? You mean the podcasts? 

Julia Malcolmson  02:21

No, I'm talking about everybody humankind like, you know, everything we do we achieve so much. Yeah, whether it's the smallest thing you've done that day, like celebrate yourself? 

Martin O'Toole  02:30

Yeah, it's a really good point, we, we so often get our heads down, get into the, into the grind. And I don't know about you guys listening. But certainly the last couple of months for me taking on this podcast, amongst other things has been very much head down and constantly checking off huge, huge lists, and not always stopping to remind myself why I'm doing it or that it's actually going down super well. So I figured I would like to share some statistics. So yes, please, first and foremost, don't forward through this bit. It won't take long. Trust me. Just to remind you really that the how to die happy podcast. I don't know when I had the idea to create it. I guess it was it was September, actually, because it took from having the idea. We went out with the first episode two weeks after, didn't we? 

Julia Malcolmson  03:32

Yeah, I mean, you were on it. It was I've never seen anyone create something so fast. 

Martin O'Toole  03:38

I was really excited about this. And I suppose having comprehended the top 10 Common deathbed regrets and sat with them for a while and just felt this real melancholy and sadness. It did occur to me fairly rapidly. Not long after seeing that that list that there wasn't there was an opportunity to help people. Ultimately, to help them try to avoid having a list of deathbed regrets or at least 10. And at least these 10 Because the 10 top 10 The 10 Top 10 Top 1010 The top 10 Common deathbed regrets 

Julia Malcolmson  04:24

you did it

Martin O'Toole  04:27

really quite depressing. You can find them on the website by the way I'm not going to go through them again. But you can find them on our blog section so how to die happy podcast.com forward slash blog suddenly I've been so busy doing everything else I think there is only still one blog on there which is well this abysmal for a writer, I must say please don't judge me harshly. So yeah, I had the idea middle of September, gave poor ol Chris Siracuse a heart Back, not literally, but in metaphorical terms, and that was it. Boom, we were off. And then the 30th of September, our first episode went live, which was with the wonderful Liam Farquhar, ah, the psychedelic guide, based over in London. And I think if I'm right, Liam show is still the second highest ranking show. Oh really listens. Yeah, it is. So people are still getting stuck into psychedelic therapy, very interesting subjects isn't explored. Oh, yeah. Well, for those of you who listen to the show on a fairly regular basis, you'll know that we have a fair amount of passion and enthusiasm for psychedelic work. So there isn't a doubt in my mind that we'll be talking about this on a regular basis. And in fact, we may well have an incredibly interesting psychedelic therapist slash guide lined up for season two. And that's what we're having today. So we have done 12 guest interviews and eight chinwag since the 30th of September. 

Julia Malcolmson  07:12

That's pretty impressive.

Martin O'Toole  07:13

I can't believe we've done it. 

Julia Malcolmson  07:16

Well, well done to you, though. I mean, you're the one putting in the hours. I mean, you're really putting in the hours. I don't feel like I've seen that much. Have you since September? No, I would maybe like that to change. 

Martin O'Toole  07:29

So perhaps if you're not already doing so subscribe to the How to die happy podcast, and you could listen to and then you'll hear from me on a regular basis. 

Julia Malcolmson  07:41

Thanks. Thanks for that. 

Martin O'Toole  07:43

J K. So what else can I tell you about how we've been doing? Well, our plays and downloads are up week on week, which has been amazing the audience members are up to so we have a an increasingly more engaged audience, which is really exciting. We're now available on at least 10 platforms that I know of. So in all the major platforms, I didn't even know there were 10 that I didn't there. There are piles of podcast platforms. And obviously the common ones are Spotify, Google podcasts, Apple podcasts, audible have a podcast channel as well. castbox pod chaser, there are loads anywhere on all of them, which is which is amazing. And audience wise, FYI. 28% of our audience are in the USA. So big up to our American BROZEN says, and thanks for listening. Really appreciate your support 21% In the UK, in mama England.

Julia Malcolmson  08:45

Thanks mom and friends,

Martin O'Toole  08:47

perhaps our Scotland as well. UK, which actually technically should be England, Ireland and no England, Northern Ireland and Scotland. That's right, isn't it? 20% are in Indonesia. I'm going to take a guess and say most of them are on the smaller island of Bali. Yes, very likely. And then 6% of our audience are in Ireland. So big up to my cousins in Ireland. And I don't just mean my ancestral O'Toole cousins. Turns out three of my cousins in Ireland are actually listening to the podcast. They all call Martin. No, but one is Yeah, Martin more. Hello, Martin. So yeah, thank you to all you guys. And notwithstanding that we have an audience in Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Belgium and France. Well, I hope that we get more and more people in different countries listening to us. Granted, they'll have to be English speaking countries. Nevertheless, thank you to all of you all over the world.

Julia Malcolmson  09:57

Thank you. Thank you. 

Martin O'Toole  09:59

It's nuts, man. I just can't get my head around it. People on the other side of the world are actually tuning into listening to us. Yeah, because you have, you have some good stuff to share. And you're bringing bringing amazing people to the podcast to be heard. We have got some phenomenal guests. And who are you? Well, 56% of you are female, 40% of you are male. And the remainder of you identify as non binary. So thanks for that, too. And here's the interesting thing, we have quite an intro, quite an interesting split of ages listening to the How to die happy podcast. So 3% of our audience are 18 to 22 5% are 23 to 27 25% of between 28 and 34. A whopping 48% or 35 to 44 12%, or 45 to 59 and 6% 60 plus, 

Julia Malcolmson  10:58

okay, interesting spread of ages. 

Martin O'Toole  11:01

It is, isn't it? I don't know what one can take from that other than the fact that we have a wide ranging audience all interested in the arts of living and dying well. I would love to somehow interact with you guys more, so we can understand what it is that you like, what it is or what it is that you are looking for. That's probably the fundamental point from my perspective. For all the folks listening to the rambling, so get in touch with us. Yeah, please do and of course, you can email me Martin at how to die happy podcast.com Her 

11:39

Julia at how to die happy podcast.com 

Martin O'Toole  11:41

or Hi, at how to die happy podcast.com which we just don't know how to read that. Perhaps the dogs? 

Julia Malcolmson  11:50

Oh, yeah, I'll put Ati on it tomorrow.

Martin O'Toole  11:51

 tomorrow, the dogs incident there in the background again, you'll probably be very familiar with them rumbling through the podcast. We're going to crack open so many more subjects in future episodes. I think we've got off to a an awesome start, I suppose in many ways. We followed my own personal healing journey, haven't we? 

Julia Malcolmson  12:18

Yeah, quite closely. 

Martin O'Toole  12:20

And then brought in some wonderful people who I've come into contact with as a result of that journey. But it doesn't doesn't end there. Not by a country mile. We are absolutely hell bent on exploring human kind's pursuit of happiness. 

Julia Malcolmson  12:38

Yeah. And I'm very excited for the lineup coming next year. 

Martin O'Toole  12:42

Yeah. Yeah, we've got some guns. Well, hopefully, I've haven't booked them all yet. So pursuit of happiness, the fear of death, and of course, everything in between. So, so we aren't going to we're going to start toying with death.

12:58

Come on death. Bring it baby. Because we haven't really I don't think we've talked about. We've talked about death theoretically. Or rather, the fear of death. Theoretically, I think we've touched on that. But there there are way more ways in which we can discuss that.

Martin O'Toole  13:28

Do your parents listen to the podcast? 

Julia Malcolmson  13:33

I'm gonna be really honest and say, I don't think they've listened to it yet. 

Martin O'Toole  13:37

Wow. Yeah. And John Malcolmson calling you out right now. On a podcast for not listening to it 

Julia Malcolmson  13:46

I've sent them the links, but I don't think I think podcasts are quite a new thing for them. 

Martin O'Toole  13:52

Tell them it's like the radio, but on the internet. 

Julia Malcolmson  13:54

Yeah, I try that. 

Martin O'Toole  13:56

That can maybe work. So where do you even start with series highlights? 

Julia Malcolmson  14:04

Oh, there's so many.

Martin O'Toole  14:06

It took a while to and as I mentioned in January, I'm sure. It has been just the most incredible and fun roller coaster. And

Julia Malcolmson  14:17

it just keeps getting better and better.

Martin O'Toole  14:19

Yeah, yeah, it does. Well, I think is perhaps is getting a bit more fun as well. Now, this has nothing to do with any of our guests. But I was listening to some of the earlier episodes and by golly, I was a little bit of a rough around the edges. Interviewer comm presenter

Julia Malcolmson  14:39

and you you are natural.

Martin O'Toole  14:41

Well, perhaps I don't know. I certainly feel more comfortable behind the microphone now. And I feel like that our production values have improved tenfold as well. And I suppose that just comes with practice, doesn't it? So we've got that sort of consistency but we have had had some phenomenal guests and we've had some incredible discussions. Some we've had, we've laughed. We've cried. We've had had moments where we were literally dumbfounded. And that's just in 20 episodes. So it will 12 guest interviews. So it's been phenomenal. And not to mention, but I am going to mention all of you. chinwag cohorts, my, my chinwag buddies. And who have they included? Well, Chris, obviously, Bianca, Richie. Terry, who else?

Julia Malcolmson  15:41

Obviously Now me, 

Martin O'Toole  15:43

obviously now you. I think that's it. I think that's all of them. I hope I missed anybody out because that would be absolutely CAC. And oh,

Julia Malcolmson  15:55

yeah. Ryan. Sorry. Ryan out.

Martin O'Toole  15:59

No, Ryan. And that was a wonderful one. Actually, that was that was called how to forgive. You know, I got somebody contacted me via Facebook, out of the blue to say that that episode is really touched her in ways that she didn't, she couldn't quite articulate, she went to sit with it, and then come back to me. And she came back to me a couple of days later. And she said, it was wonderful to hear two men talking together, who quite clearly had a close relationships, who were who had their hearts on their sleeves, and they were openly discussing their own vulnerabilities and life experiences and the lessons that had come out of it. And it really, really sort of got out which I was super, super chuffed to hear about.

Julia Malcolmson  16:49

That's really lovely that she took the time out to actually express that to you. Yeah, big

Martin O'Toole  16:53

time. And I suppose I just take it for granted because I'm more than happy to talk about my whatever, whatever you call it. Madness. form of madness. So yeah, thank you, to Ryan and all the rest of you guys for doing some phenomenal chin WAGs. For the listeners, these guys really are the beginnings of the how to die happy collective. So we have another buddy joining us in an episode in January that will be my friend to Terae in San Francisco. We're going to talk about aliens.

Julia Malcolmson  17:31

I think that's gonna be a good one. 

Martin O'Toole  17:32

I can't wait to start to Terae. I haven't spoken to her for ages. That's gonna be Yeah, that'll be fun. No doubt. So thanks to the How to die happy collective. And series highlights wise then. Well, it's impossible to mention all of them, but I would, I would say certainly one of my favourite chin WAGs are and also the audience's favourite tune works was word up grandmaster. And for those of you who haven't listened to this, it's an episode where I explained to Chris about the time the Illuminati tried to recruit me via WhatsApp. Okay, brother, I will tell you all about the Illuminati. Okay.

How To Die Happy  18:27

Let's get the smarter. I suppose. The Illuminati Brotherhood is all about riches and famous and you can achieve anything in life once you are a full member of the Illuminati. Oh my god. I see. Thank you. I've always been fascinated with the Illuminati. Might you tell me more about how the Illuminati, the Knights of Malta, the Freemasons, the rose, a curious scions, Rosicrucian Rosicrucians and the Elders of Zion all allegedly working together for the betterment of humanity.

Martin O'Toole  19:01

Love every time I hear such fun making that episode. That was so what I did was I surprised Chris by transcribing the conversation this lengthy chat I had with this this person purporting to be from the Illuminati and transcribed it into final draft the screenwriting software so there were two parts of the script there was me and the Grandmaster but I asked Chris to be me. And I was the grandmaster.

Julia Malcolmson  19:31

I remember hearing you guys recording because I was in the living room. 

Martin O'Toole  19:36

It just couldn't start laughing. It was a really fun episode. And actually we've had a lot of great feedback from that and and reviews even people have mentioned it in Apple podcast review. So so that was one of my highlights just because it was super fun. 

Julia Malcolmson  19:51

And one of my highlights was interviewing Mia, who was the nine year old animal lover that we had on the show

Martin O'Toole  20:00

YLet me play a clip of Mia.

How To Die Happy  20:02

Ready said, let's get wet. Let's get started. Thank you. And this is your first podcast, I understand. Yes. How's it going so far? super nice and super happy to be here. So let's, let's have a backtrack. How old are you? Nine years nine. Maybe 10 in January. Wow, this is so and you just decided one day, I'm going to build a sanctuary. I'm homeschooling. I never go to school. That's why I'm super smart. Yeah, I want to know what else makes you happy? What else makes me happy? Especially when I help somebody or some animals. Like I save their lives. It's made me feel happy.

Julia Malcolmson  20:50

Yeah. Oh, that was just such an incredible interview. And she was so natural. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt that that child will have a podcast. Yeah. But she just was very she an innate wisdom about happiness and living your dreams. She just kept dropping the mic. 

Martin O'Toole  21:07

She did. Although I remember we it was the first first episode you and I had done together. Or maybe the second second. I know we'd had a bit of a nightmare trying to get so up because I'd been learning how to use all the production gear and stuff after Chris had left. So it was all a bit fraught. But I remember we were trying desperately to try and get it to talk about anything else other than animals. And you just can't get a talk about anything. Talk about anything else. She's so passionate. That's her. I mean, it's her direction. She's Yeah, she is focused for sure. But what an impressive young being and I had a again, lots of people come back and say if we had a whole generation of mirrors coming up at the same time, I'm not worried about the future of mankind.

Julia Malcolmson  21:54

We should give that one a listen. It's not very long, but it's a definitely a heart warmer. Yeah, I think it was about there's only about 25 minutes long, actually. But

Martin O'Toole  22:10

Who else well, albeit very recently, one could not neglect Mr. Alexander Menduluk.

Alexander Mendeluk  22:22

And during that time, I lost my mother to COVID my father almost lost him to a heart attack and to COVID as well. We were robbed with attempted kidnapping of my son I let me ask you a question because narcissistic disorder is one of the hardest to turn around. Yeah, narcissists never know they're narcissists. No, they don't know that. Did you know him then? I did not know him nice

Julia Malcolmson  22:53

and it's lovely to see that you know and see someone's so open to trying it and to innocently talking about their experience

Martin O'Toole  23:01

while I'm looking at traumatised kid in a candy shop.

Alexander Mendeluk  23:07

I'll take it all y'all remember the light is the way in the ways the light was not of the light is in the way boom, you're adding gasoline to the fire and it just starts rolling baby let's go

Martin O'Toole  23:22

if you were holding that microphone, I would invite you to drop it

Alexander Mendeluk  23:29

consider it dropped.

Martin O'Toole  23:32

And he did

Julia Malcolmson  23:34

I love that episode. 

Martin O'Toole  23:36

Yeah. Was such good fun the that was on the cliff side 

Julia Malcolmson  23:39

on the cliffside looking out to the ocean and he is such an energetic, colourful character. 

Martin O'Toole  23:46

Yeah. Yeah. And but also a really intuitive healer as well. But we that That episode was packed with laughs and sad stories. Obviously, you heard about his mom dying and his dad very, very nearly dying. And then of course, he he and his wife Xiaoyun gave birth to a beautiful little boy in the woods. That was in that same period of time, very shortly after, I think. So they had this life death cycle, after his mum had very, very recently died and then boom, this this little baby appears and his perspective and Shane's perspective, just beautiful. They just took it all as life lessons and ask themselves what what can we take from these particular events? What what no longer serves us? What should we take forward? And of course, he also offered some wonderful advice to a couple of listeners who sent messages in for Be my guest. 

Julia Malcolmson  24:49

Yeah. And the questions that came through were really they were really good. So we were very grateful to receive such interesting questions. 

Martin O'Toole  24:57

Yeah, and on that note, thank you to . everyone who has submitted Be my guest questions for anyone who doesn't know what the heck I'm talking about, we have a section on the show every week called Be my guest. And we have a section on the website, where you can check out what guests are coming up on the show. And then you can click a big button and and send us a voice message recorded question or even two or three, for the guest of your choice. And I have to say we have had some incredible questions from guests, 

Julia Malcolmson  25:35

which we're really grateful for. And we'd love more questions. So please feel free to check out who's going to be on the show. Leave the questions for our guests so that you can be involved in it. 

Martin O'Toole  25:45

Yeah, and what we'll try to do now we've got a bit of a system in place for a lot of this we will publish our guests in advances as much as possible. You can find out who we have lined up on the show if you visit how to die happy podcast.com forward slash on dash the dash so correct a Mundo. Who else have we got no highlights? 

Julia Malcolmson  26:13

Oh, for me, it was Jake. 

Martin O'Toole  26:15

Jake. Jake Mackenzie, 

Julia Malcolmson  26:18

Jake Mackenzie, have you got a highlight? 

Jake Mackenzie  26:20

What a question. The wildest adventure would have to be, had this dream to be like, straight out of a Tolkien novel 

Martin O'Toole  26:52

was a wizard hat. 

Jake Mackenzie  26:54

And so after the Rambo ngadimin I started pedalling. furiously.

Martin O'Toole  27:00

Forrest Gump story, yeah, great image dispersed.

Jake Mackenzie  27:06

If you listen to that voice and take action, then that alchemy becomes more and more an active part of your day or the magic becomes more and more of your active party's day. So yep.

Martin O'Toole  27:20

I've got a lot of time for what you just said there, Mr. McKenzie.

Julia Malcolmson  27:26

The cosmic wizard 

Martin O'Toole  27:27

The cosmic wizard strikes again. 

Julia Malcolmson  27:29

He's just just the way he speaks. It's just lovely to listen to. But he's also offering such great advice to our listeners. Yeah. And then alongside that he's had such a brilliant life, like, his life is just full of adventure. And he loves He loves life. 

Martin O'Toole  27:48

And we only scratched the surface of his stories. Funnily enough, it was, maybe last week I saw him share a picture of him on his Instagram, as a young man with this long hair and a didgeridoo. hypnotic voice. 

Julia Malcolmson  28:49

Yeah, it's hypnotic. It's very soothing.

Martin O'Toole  28:52

Very much. So. Speaking of hypnotic I can't let the episode with Karthika slipped by because Karthika Alexandra, who is a hypnotherapist was our first in person interview a not over the miracle of the internet will listen to this, where we're using hypnosis to tap into different parts of ourselves to it's just a tool for healing, actually, essentially it's a condition of our mind that we think we know ourselves and we know what's going on. Subconsciously unconsciously we're not capable of understanding what's going on there with our conscious mind. But then through this process, Karthika enabled me to then hop into the the mind and the heart of the six year old me. We have different types of memory we have narrative memory and implicit memories implicit our feeling base and narrative are associated with words and you labelled like you know riding a bike, there has to be cleaning in your river of memory. So that six year old is feeling more loved and loving, forgiving his mom

Kartika Alexandra  30:00

Maybe How old were you when you came two years ago? How old the mind that is even debatable.

Martin O'Toole  30:08

So old, I can't remember 

Chris Siracuse  30:09

your turning 46 in November 

Kartika Alexandra  30:12

so 44

Martin O'Toole  30:15

thanks to Chris for reminding me how old I was

Julia Malcolmson  30:19

not the first time you've forgotten 

Martin O'Toole  30:21

no. So Kartika and I met a couple of years ago, when I asked Kartika to to do some regression therapy with me, and as you'll find out on the episode, if you listened to it, that was episode five, I believe. Kartika took me back to meet six year old me. And how old am I again, 

Julia Malcolmson  32:17

46

Martin O'Toole  32:17

 So I would have been 44. At the time, 44 year old Martin witnessed this whole thing. And in that witnessing, I can't fully explain the science, everyone this is, I suppose, a method of quantum healing, if you like, I healed a part of me. And so thanks Kartika once more for doing that, but also for coming on the show to talk about it. She's an immensely impressive woman, and we have got Kartika coming back in season two, 

Julia Malcolmson  32:44

yes, I'm looking forward to that. 

Martin O'Toole  32:46

Yeah, well, that'll be in person again. So the energy will be awesome. 

Julia Malcolmson  32:50

But we forget such important work doing inner child work, we forget how much we need to do that. Even as something as simple as just tuning in and thinking, What does my inner child want to do today? What can I how can I give my inner child what she or he needs, and that could be dancing, or it could be just going for an ice cream or jumping in the pool and shouting, like, just embracing that sometimes, or just giving the inner child that hug that it needs? 

Martin O'Toole  33:18

Well, I think that's primarily the point. We don't do that because many of us don't acknowledge our inner child. And one of the things that Kartika focuses on in her work is helping people to heal a wounded inner child, because of course, we have all of these behavioural traits in our 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s, you know, wow, even 90s. And many of us are either not even aware, or completely forget that most of our behavioural traits, or at least the route stuff is developed in formative years, the first eight years of our lives. And of course, the females and males who we come into contact with, for example, mom, dad, Auntie's uncles, grandparents, But what she does is is gets you into a situation where you're remembering those events, and then forgiving yourself and forgiving who whoever else was involved in, in these issues, or these events, so that you can move on, and you move on as a new person.

Julia Malcolmson  35:19

 Yeah. But it doesn't even have to be bad events. You know, traumas can be formed from things that you won't necessarily consider a bad thing. You know, it can be one action or one word, excuse me, that you pick up in those formative years. And it can have that impact on you. That still counts as that sort of trauma. 

Martin O'Toole  35:41

Yeah. Yeah, it is. And it doesn't necessarily need to be a huge trauma, as you say, we embody everything, and we don't realise often we don't realise that these things have happened to us. And we've, we've taken that on board. And that's why Karthika talks about the subconscious unconscious, burying this stuff. So we we are innocent, in many ways of our behaviour, and what many people would label as bad behaviour, we don't realise it. Now, that doesn't mean that we're not responsible for our actions. Of course, we are responsible for our actions. But we don't always know why we're doing the things we do why we're seeing the things we say. It's only when you start to do the work that you really take a long hard look at yourself. So Kartika was epic in that regard. back to episode two, we had the the absolute Thunderball international best selling speaker, Carl Honore. And Carl, his first book was called In Praise of Slow He's written several books since I suppose he's widely considered as the guru of the slowness movement, right? Have a listen to this? What's your opinion on sloths?

Carl Honoré  37:04

I'm a I'm a big fan of sloths. Yeah, I mean, I, I wouldn't say that I'm on Team sloth. It's about doing things at the right speed. So musicians talk about the tempo giusto, right, the correct tempo for each piece of music. And that kind of gets at the heart of what this slow culture quake is about. And why I think slow is bigger than just what's the velocity here. It's it's a mindset. It's a chip, right? It's arriving at each moment thinking, how can I get through this moment? Not as fast as possible, but as well as possible? I get a lot done. And I have a lot of fun, and I will die happy. Because I'm good, good. Good. But I don't ever feel rushed. Yeah. And that's the that's the tectonic seismic shift.

Julia Malcolmson  37:54

He was very good. 

Martin O'Toole  37:56

Professional Speaker. Yeah, two times TED talk. Yeah, I he, well, it was like my second episode. And I just remember sort of wincing every time I talked over him. The guy is just a true pro and an incredibly witty, and if you've not read In Praise of Slow, please consider doing so. Slowly. So that's a few highlights. You got any more? 

Julia Malcolmson  38:21

Yeah, one more. It's more for the like the experience as we're doing the live podcasts, we'll see. We're getting to sit in person with these people and experience what they do. And so for the pyramids of Qi episode, you know, talking to Peter about the concept and why he built it. And then we moved into listening to the instruments, and I love sound healing. So it was really special to be in the pyramid and Jordan taking us through each instrument. But then the highlight of that was I got to lie down for three minutes, and have a mini mini mini private sound healing, which was incredible. So I feel very grateful that I was able to do that. 

Martin O'Toole  39:00

You were resonating after that. We missed Chris plow although you got a mini mentioned Waylon Lewis elephant journal. Lauren lovett. That was a good episode. Oh mind food. Incredible plant based Cook who every time she spoke just made my mouth water and I was on a detox Diet at the time was in a big up Lauren you know, thanks for your time, attention and energy, it was very much appreciated. And from the looks of how the podcast is going. It's been appreciated by our listeners, which is amazing. So in terms of the top five shows at the top spot is Chris plow money is energy. Okay, right. Turns out the How to die happy podcast audience are also interested in in investment. What about personal highlights? Then? Before we go, 

Julia Malcolmson  41:40

Oh, we've got a few of them. 

Martin O'Toole  41:42

We got a mad old year. Isn't it nice to celebrate 2021

Julia Malcolmson  42:14

We did 

Martin O'Toole  42:15

that was that. I think that was a personal highlight coming back here. 

Julia Malcolmson  42:19

Yeah, we needed to do it. That's what we wanted. 

Martin O'Toole  42:21

Yeah, for sure. And we had unfinished business in Bali. So I'm super grateful. We came back to Bali. 

Julia Malcolmson  42:29

And when we got back to Bali, I learned to ride a scooter. 

Martin O'Toole  42:32

Because I bought 

Julia Malcolmson  42:33

he bought me one for my birthday or Honda cub. And I love it. And then I was a little bit scared at first to get out on the road. But once I started riding it and I had that freedom, I could just ride around a little wet to the sun in my face and love it. 

Martin O'Toole  42:47

Yeah. Yeah, it's a fun little bike that and I'm really pleased that you've you've learned how to do that. overcoming your fear. That was a that was a comfort zone thing, wasn't it? So? 

Julia Malcolmson  42:56

Yeah, I mean, I still haven't actually taken it on a big major road. But I'm pretty happy with it being a small town kind of bike. 

Martin O'Toole  43:03

It's a 90 cc. Gosh knows how old Honda. Scooter. I don't think you can take it that far. 

Julia Malcolmson  43:11

I actually couldn't get out of Amed on it. No, it's like a little motor. It's like a lawnmower. 

Martin O'Toole  43:15

The hills are too high, you would roll back Well, I can't let this episode slide without saying my obvious big ass thing to celebrate would be that I asked you to marry me. And you said yes. I did say yes. And I imagined not many of the audience know about this? Because it's not something I've made all that overtly public.

Julia Malcolmson  43:38

No, we keep some things personal. Let me try that.

Martin O'Toole  43:41

Yeah. So well, she said yes. Thanks. Thanks for asking. And we would have been married by now we're not for these stupid COVID restrictions. So we're just gonna have to wait to see how that pans out. But meanwhile, hurray. And of course, I got the most beautiful podcast co hosts I could possibly imagine.

Julia Malcolmson  44:06

If you see this, I am blushing.

Martin O'Toole  44:09

She oh you are actually good, Well done. What about you?

Julia Malcolmson  44:15

Well, obviously that was one of my highlights, but also the biggest, the biggest highlight, but also we, the number one pretty well, but we adopted two gorgeous fluff balls.

Martin O'Toole  44:30

I thought you're gonna say fuck balls.

Julia Malcolmson  44:32

Oh, don't worry. Carry on in your head, possibly fuckballs,

Martin O'Toole  44:38

probably at least three times a day.

Julia Malcolmson  44:41

So we adopted two gorgeous fluff balls, which obviously we named Ati and Mudah they're not quite so small and not quite so cute anymore. But we do love them.

Martin O'Toole  44:54

I love them. What we're going to do about this irrational barking every time anybody goes anywhere near the house is is another question. So he's a barley dog. I know dog trainers out there any advice please? How do we stop the dogs from yapping at people as they walk past the house and destroying Martin's? Yeah lost another set of endo soul flip flops. Three pairs of inner soul flip flops we've lost to the dog. Yeah, what you guys do in their soul is wonderful. This incidentally is a super sustainable flip flop company and flip flop. Some people call them thongs, we've got some people in America thongs, or thongs, I would say, and jandals. If you're from New Zealand, I think jandals. And they also do sliders. Anyway, this episode is not sponsored by undersold, the point is that they're great 100% Sustainable made out of recycled tires. But they're not dog proof. Why? What else? So? I mean, you got a tough start to this year.

Julia Malcolmson  45:59

Yeah, this year has been has been a tricky one for me, when you're battling with depression, and I think sometimes you know, there's constant we we move a lot. And I think sometimes not feeling grounded, leads to that can lead to that depression and that uncertainty. But it actually led me to dive into Kundalini. And it's been something I've wanted to do for a long time. And I keep getting these signs as the universe likes to give us, but I was ignoring them. And then eventually I went for it and dived into Kundalini. And it was everything that I needed and more.

Martin O'Toole  46:33

And so the listeners who haven't got a clue what you're talking about what is Kundalini,

Julia Malcolmson  46:37

Kundalini is a yoga practice. So it's, you know, one of the schools of yoga, but it's a very, very different practice, to what a lot of you might be used to, we often refer to Kundalini as the yoga of awareness. And within Kundalini, we work with careers, which are kind of like the asanas within a yoga practice. And we work with the breath, the breath is a very key component to Kundalini. And we work with mantras and chanting. And when we combine all that and bring it together, it helps us to, to, I'm going to say soon it is it's supercharging, a supercharges, your electromagnetic field. And once you start working with that fields, that's where your power lies. And it's, it's fascinating.

Martin O'Toole  47:28

And everyone around you notice is phenomenal difference in the Yeah, me included? Yeah. Well pick up Kundalini. We'll talk about that. In season two. Yes. Hopefully, I think we'll get your Kundalini teacher. 

Julia Malcolmson  47:43

Yeah, my my mentor. Yeah.

Martin O'Toole  47:47

Well, I suppose the final highlight for me would be creating the how to die happy podcast,

Julia Malcolmson  47:54

which deserves big celebration. Yeah.

Martin O'Toole  47:57

Yeah, makes me quite emotional about it so far, because it's been such a beautiful journey. And to be able to share it with so many incredible people, including new folks, has been a true honour really has, and we're only 20 episodes in and the first season in and I suspect, we're going to be making this for a long time. And from the looks of, of who's listening to it, and who's communicating to us about it, and who wants to come on it, I suspect, it's, it's just going to grow from strength to strength. So the whole point of how to die happy is to just remember those top 10 Common deathbed regrets and ultimately, try to ensure that we don't have them, when we get to the point where we're, you know, about to kick the bucket. So we're sharing stories and practical utilities, to to have a better life. And, as you probably gathered, if you listened to any of these episodes, the better our life is the significantly better or, or at least more peaceful our, our death will be. And if you're really lucky, like me, for example, who accepts that you are dying, and has no fear at all attached to it? Then I gotta tell you, life takes on a whole new meaning and a whole new flavour. And when you can throw the fear away like that. I didn't just throw it away like that, incidentally, it took a bit of work. But that's the point of having these people come on and talk about these, these areas and territories in which we can work to enrich our minds, bodies and souls. So ultimately, we can be happy. It was Alan Watts, who wrote a book about happiness. Actually, the title of the book, his title was the anatomy of acceptance, but the publisher has changed it. And I think I couldn't put it in a better way to consider what acceptance, what true acceptance is the anatomy of it. And if you really can get to the point where you accept everything around you everything that's happening, then you, you're living a life of non attachment. And when you're doing that, you suddenly have a whole new perspective on stuff. And no doubt, we're going to talk about that a lot going forward. So that's it. That's,

Julia Malcolmson  50:35

that's very beautifully put. And you know, you have a lot to share. You've learned a lot these past couple of years. And we needed a platform for you to get that out. And you're doing it.

Martin O'Toole  50:46

Yeah. And it's helping people, which is just, you know, it's the point, right, and like, just, I want to spend the second half of my life in service to others. And I had lots of lofty ideas of how that would occur. But I never realise it might just be sitting in front of a microphone, rambling about my crazy life experiences,

Julia Malcolmson  51:06

kind of suits, you babe, you're a talker.

Martin O'Toole  51:08

This is true. I am not shy. So thank you, one small one. And all, I suppose the question we should pose is to the folks at home, which is, well, what are you celebrating?

Julia Malcolmson  51:23

We would really love to know, whatever it is, it could be something that you might think is small, but the smallest celebrations are really important. And you might be celebrating the big stuff we'd love to know.

Martin O'Toole  51:34

Yeah, big time. And a little reminder, gratitude meditations are some of the best you can do, especially when you're feeling low. So yeah, let us know, let us know what you're celebrating because we want to talk about it, we want to hear about it. Well, before we go, I'm going to just shamelessly remind you all we are trying to grow this podcast. And there are enough of you listening right now that if you told 10 people, why you what this podcast is, why you love it, and how they can find that you would help us grow exponentially very quickly. I know you're busy. I know everyone's got stuff to do. But please pretty please, with a cherry on top, it would be the best Christmas present we could receive to get more ears onto this podcast. Because the whole point we don't make any money out of this, you know, this is a labour of love. And the whole point of it and none of the guests get paid. Everyone's giving their time, attention and energy to this because they believe in the in the project and they believe in the power that it has to help some people who legitimately need help so and by the way, that's not just does not like people in the deepest darkest depths of mental illness or depression. That's all of you. That's everyone this stuff is for all of us. Right? So our website is how to die happy podcast.com What's our website address, again,

Julia Malcolmson  53:01

how to die happy podcast.com

Martin O'Toole  53:04

We have a section called Be my guest, we would love for you to keep on checking out who our guests are gonna be and record questions for them. And you can find all of that information on how to die happy podcast.com forward slash b dash my dash guest reviews you we've had some phenomenal reviews, please continue to send the reviews. And I know it's a couple of extra minutes out your day. Trust me, we super appreciate all of your time and attention and energy so you can keep on giving us a review. That would be amazing. I understand that Spotify this week has upgraded their functionality. So with one tap you can give us one to five stars. Make sure it's the five star Yeah, thank you very much and follow us. As you may or may not recall, we had an Instagram page but we were deleted for allegedly breaching community guidelines. I won't rant about it, it's pointless. Needless to say we weren't or we were doing was talking about how you might be able to help and heal yourself. And quite clearly that doesn't go down well with the powers that be but it does with us. So you can't follow us on Instagram. But you can follow me @MartinO'Toole and her at @yogawithJuliaLouise. So please do you know get him get involved in engaging with us and just keep doing what you're doing super, super grateful Without you this show would be nothing right. So we are so so grateful. Well, we got some exciting guests lined up for season two. The last episode of this year will be this Thursday, December the 23rd which is with Chris plough who's Bitcoin and crypto analyst and coach back by popular demand the number one listen to episode of 2021 So I suppose we're gonna have a crypto Christmas.

Julia Malcolmson  54:47

Is there going to be Christmas Eve?

Martin O'Toole  54:49

I have created a few little bits and pieces that will I believe tickle your Christmas fancy.

Julia Malcolmson  54:56

Thank you

Martin O'Toole  54:58

if you're not interested in cryptocurrency Honestly, you need to be an ascertain. You certainly need to be interested in the story around it. I'm not being a scare monger here. But listen to the episode. Thank you, everyone.

Julia Malcolmson  55:11

Thank you. Thank you.

Martin O'Toole  55:13

Thank you. And thank you and thank you